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| Monday, October 16, 2017
02:15:16 PM |
| | This is all wrong |
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| Einstein is | Monday, October 16, 2017
06:02:50 PM |
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| Overrated | Monday, October 16, 2017
06:03:08 PM |
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| Deena | Monday, October 16, 2017
06:17:08 PM |
| | Adam will be second on a bad day, he's been there before and should be primed for a top 2 finish |
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| Vicho | Monday, October 16, 2017
06:22:42 PM |
| | Ian Silver is sub 15 confirmed watch out |
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| A concerned person | Monday, October 16, 2017
06:39:41 PM |
| | Einstein boys are too high and Blair boys are unerrated |
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| W | Monday, October 16, 2017
07:25:57 PM |
| | Top eight boys will be under 16 minutes |
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| ugly god | Monday, October 16, 2017
10:07:38 PM |
| | Einstein out here reppin |
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| Really guys | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
07:34:05 AM |
| | Northwood and Einstein are overrated and don’t tell me Blair is underrated. |
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| in the middle | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
07:47:04 AM |
| | Blair beat Whitman. Einstein beat Blair. Northwood beat Einstein |
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| fact | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
10:56:15 AM |
| | northwood beating einstein was a #fluke |
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| Tuesday, October 17, 2017
11:56:33 AM |
| | ^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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| 8e0a74huvsa | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
12:35:29 PM |
| | Northwood beating Einstein was not a fluke or even a case of home course advantage. Einstein was missing a guy. If he is back AND at full speed Einstein will most likely beat Northwood. If he is not back or not at full speed, Einstein will NOT beat Northwood, Eldon is going to clean up on the county course.
Blair was also missing a guy. He will be back and running full speed for sure. That won't be enough to get them into contention but certainly they will end up 8 or 9 or 10.
I have watched Mark U run dozens of races over the years. This fall he looks primed for the county win. I think RL is only worried about late November. AN is is somewhere between those strategies, I don't know which one he will chose. |
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| Deena | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
12:38:15 PM |
| | I don't think Einstein has a chance to seriously contend. They have 3 strong runners but no one else varsity caliber. There 4 and 5 will be lucky to break 18 at counties (barely did at scorpion crawl) and that means they will be scoring a huge amount of points. Even with 3 in top 10 they would be scoring well over 150 and that just leaves them way out of contention.
Bcc has the veterans to maybe pull something off. Whitman has good young kids but are trending downward after poor showing at manhattan. Northwood looks good with eldon Phillips coming on strong. X factor for them is eldad mulugeta there #2 man who seemingly dissapeared. Fantaw and sila should be top 20, obssa top 5 strong bunch there.
Wouldn't count on riker and wootton, they aren't battle tested. Also don't think Blair is relevant whatsoever in this race.
RM should be favorite but there 5 has to come along if thy want to win. 3 in top 10 very possible and olano is a solid 4 should be around 1700-1710
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| savomkwe8u | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
12:38:36 PM |
| | RM's Charlotte Turesson will be top 10. |
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| Bofa | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
12:47:37 PM |
| | Tom Martin chasing his 10th girls county title, has 4 boys titles as well, would be 9 overall in last 10 years.
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| zxc874oij | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
01:00:49 PM |
| | I don't think Einstein has a chance to seriously contend.
Agreed.
Bcc has the veterans to maybe pull something off.
But a win is unlikely unless RM holds guys like last year.
Whitman has good young kids but are trending downward after poor showing at manhattan.
Travel to Manhattan is a much different race than counties, not that Whitman is going to win either.
Northwood looks good with eldon Phillips coming on strong. X factor for them is eldad mulugeta there #2 man who seemingly dissapeared.
I think they are going to hold him out until regionals and thus not be truly competitive with the top two or three teams.
Wouldn't count on riker and wootton, they aren't battle tested.
Certainly you don't mean John R. but with the gap to the rest I don't know how they were picked 5th.
Also don't think Blair is relevant whatsoever in this race.
OK but you don't have to be relevant to finish 9th. They are better than last year.
RM should be favorite but there 5 has to come along if thy want to win. 3 in top 10 very possible and olano is a solid 4 should be around 1700-1710.
Olano has a 16:40 in him, the question is should he save it for states? I wish I could say RM's #5 could throw a big one but he is training too hard an will be lucky to run 3 more 17:45s. |
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| Consortia | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
01:26:38 PM |
| | Northwood and Blair have been outside of the top 7 since the early 80s. I'm rooting for both. |
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| Bofa | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
01:41:17 PM |
| | Northwood was hurt by the fact that they were closed for 20 years. I don't think anyone expects Woodward to compete right away when it reopens |
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| E. Stein | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
02:13:27 PM |
| | I think there's a good possibility all top ten will go sub 16 |
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| df934oij | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
02:32:45 PM |
| | Not that I'm sure where all these were held and granting that the weather does look good for this Saturday, but still, 10 or even 8 under 16 seems less than likely. 2016 2 under 16 10th time 16:27; 2015 5 under 16 10th time 16:13; 2014 3 under 16 10th time 16:29; 2013 2 under 16 10th time 16:30; 2012 2 under 16 10th time 16:21; 2011 0 under 16 10th time 16:24; 2010 6 under 16 10th time 16:19 |
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| Frank | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
02:46:02 PM |
| | Einstein is arguably worse than magruder. Seneca valley is winning baby. All you are wrong af. Everyone is going to die of shin splints. Whitman is BAD!!! |
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| COuldnt agree more | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
02:46:40 PM |
| | to say this is a down year compared to 2011-2016 would be an understatement. There are some big guns in lockett, Adam and the RMS kids, but overall this field just doesnt stand a chance to the weaverling, bertrand, zarate woods periods |
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| Frank | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
02:48:57 PM |
| | Einstein is arguably worse than magruder. Seneca valley is winning baby. All you are wrong af. Everyone is going to die of shin splints. Whitman is BAD!!! |
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| 1-2-5-9-20 | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
03:11:46 PM |
| | Einstein top 2 was not looking that strong last saterday Eldon is tough and improving every week but will it be enough. Also Don’t forget Ayu fantaw running 17 low on a hilly course. It’s gonna come down to who wants it the most. |
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| asdfoj34 | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
03:28:57 PM |
| | Fantaw is a solid lowish stick. The reason we keep mentioning Eldon is that the big changes in points come with #4 and #5. If Mulugeta runs then Neguse is #6 and Northwood is competitive with about anyone, well unless RM's #5 has a breakout race. My guess is that they will hide Mulugeta until regions but that may just be the strategist in me hoping for a big surprise.
It is pretty cool to have Northwood to talk about this year rather than the same old teams. |
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| Wildcats | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
03:34:40 PM |
| | Woodward will beat Northwood first year open. Calling it now. #Relevant |
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| Deena | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
05:28:10 PM |
| | Is eldad healthy tho, he is exceptionally talented but has limited race experience especially on the grass. If he is healthy it would be wise to get him some exposure before the only 2 meets that truly matter. Either way any XC fan can appreciate the renaissance Gio has started at northwood, |
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| Hi | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
05:46:32 PM |
| | I think BCC should be the favorite. besides the 4-5 drop-off, RM has not been too consistent. BCC has 4 guys under 17 already along with a No.5 at 17:20. The competition at counties is tough, no doubt, but not like a state meet where that wouldn't match teams like Severna Park and Dulaney, so 17:20 is darn good. Whitman's 2-3-4-5 looked eh at Great American and the whole team didn't do too hot at Manhattan. Northwest is certainly coming in hungry and probably underrated by people in this comment section, but just doesn't have the times to compete. Einstein has not looked good of late so I'm pretty positive there out of the running |
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| a runner | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
05:51:51 PM |
| | Paint Branch could make some noise with a top 3 all near 17. This goes along with Clarksburg who have had tremendous success from Worthman and Kilosky. Dont forget about Sherwood either with 2 guys close to breaking 17. Northwood's win over Einstein was a bit fluky because Einstein didn't have a good race, but there worth watching out for especially if Eldad runs |
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| mocoxc | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
06:00:50 PM |
| | As the admin of the moco xc account, I have to give my two cents. This is a three horse race between BCC RM and Whitman. While RM are being looked at heavy favorites somehow, just 10 points separate these three teams. I'll distinguish these teams by their performances racing against each other.
Oatlands: Whitman- good, although one of their junior guys had an off race
BCC- meh
RM-great
DCXC: Whitman-great
BCC-good
RM-DNR
Great American: Whitman- good
RM- great+
BCC- great
So it's really a toss up between these three teams. For Northwood, Mulugeta coming back probably won't do much and may not even move them out of their current athletic.net projection. Also Einstein doesn't look to compete either as their 4-5 aren't nearly as strong as that top 3.
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| just to make everyone aware | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
06:45:46 PM |
| | JUST TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE:
Nicholas Olano is repeated on the athletic.net virtual meet as nicholas and nick, he has two profiles. also, eluded mulugeta's time trial 17:33 is obviously still included which inflates Northwood's place. |
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| Bofa | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
07:15:39 PM |
| | I hate so much emphasis on XC times cuz these courses aren't created equal. Times for northwood and other real courses won't be as good as DCXc , great American, etc. teams that run these cupcake course won't find too much trouble @ counties but come regions they are in for a world of hurt. Look at BCCs county vs regional performance in recent years going from gburg to clarksburg, their regular season breeds fast times not hill runners with the exception of josh fry.
Olano and others are good runners but saying teams like Whitman have 4 sub17 is far fetched, their 2-4 haven't run close to 17 on anything but a pancake flat course.
Also funny when you say a win is a fluke becuz a team didn't have a good race, good teams find ways to win, especially dual meets. Some teams do workouts day before dual meets and sit out some of their top 7 becuz it shouldn't take a good team an all out effort to win a dual meet. |
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| hluvjl | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
07:27:56 PM |
| | Counties is a pancake course. What these guys have run on pancake courses is likely to be run on counties |
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| hluvjl | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
07:31:52 PM |
| | Nakasaka came in 2nd at states last year, he's for sure a hill runner. But you right, you can't have all the emphasis on times when teams run courses like DCXC. But times can be used, with caution, for races like counties |
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| Gio is the best coach in maryland | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
07:37:09 PM |
| | Eldad mulugeta is injured, God knows if it's serious but Northwood beat Einstein without him and if he comes back there team would be so much more better and obsaa won't have to run by himself like he did in consortia. |
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| Mocoxc | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
07:40:53 PM |
| | Just saying, that logic has to go both ways. Look at where all rms times are from. Great American or a race on a horse track. I’m not saying they aren’t slightly favoured but be fair if you’re using that as a rationale |
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| bofa | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
08:25:33 PM |
| | completely agree, my logic does bite back at RM. They have only run oatlands. Interstate, track and trail and GA wont help them down the line. That being said we havent seen RM have much XC success. Even years where they were loaded with trackstars, Alexander, Jung, porquin, Agboola they couldnt get it done during xc so im not expecting a whole lot from RM after this saturday |
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| Gio is the best coach in maryland | Tuesday, October 17, 2017
09:53:08 PM |
| | Eldad mulugeta is injured, God knows if it's serious but Northwood beat Einstein without him and if he comes back there team would be so much more better and obsaa won't have to run by himself like he did in consortia. |
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| Tuesday, October 17, 2017
10:36:23 PM |
| | Bruh Eldad wouldn’t be running with Obsaa feda |
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| 87saduinds | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
09:14:45 AM |
| | not expecting a whole lot from RM after this saturday I can see that line of reasoning but kind of like Blair having a good shot at 8th at counties and Northwood's breakout year, RM running 3rd at states would be a breakthrough for them. This year RM actually has some depth. It is not impressive depth yet but their sophomore class has real potential. |
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| asdf98jeroi | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
09:22:03 AM |
| | MocoXC: Not sure where the idea for a 10 point race comes from do you know something we don't? That doesn't mean anyone should count the next 3 out.
1. Richard Montgomery 128
2. Whitman 172
3. B-CC 177
4. Northwood 180 |
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| svjknerq | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
10:23:21 AM |
| | Does anyone have any thoughts on the BCC, Blair, RM pile on the girls side? Are counties small enough for the BCC pack to prevail? Will RM's Zhou or Blair's Brane-Wright bounce back the best? |
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| Wednesday, October 18, 2017
10:25:52 AM |
| | Any thoughts on the 4A North boys pileup: Paint Branch, Sherwood, Northwood and Blair |
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| svjknerq | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
12:00:57 PM |
| | Does anyone have any thoughts on the BCC, Blair, RM pile on the girls side? Are counties small enough for the BCC pack to prevail? Will RM's Zhou or Blair's Brane-Wright bounce back the best? |
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| er98joiqa | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
12:26:18 PM |
| | I don't know anything about the North Regionals course. Looking at last years North race, if you just kind of add in Blair and Northwood since basically no one graduated, it seems like all 4 will move on to states. Athlete.net seems to support that. |
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| Deena | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
01:01:03 PM |
| | I just don't know how anyone will beat WJ girls. I think on a bad day they have 5 in the top 20. Scott and Goldberg have looked like stars and could join green in top 5, scobell is back from injury and coming on strong and poised for top15. Sadie keller gets better as the season goes and has been 15th and 16th the past two years so she should finish right around there again. I expect a score under the projected 50 points |
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| qw4589jd | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
01:54:47 PM |
| | The interesting thing about WJ is that they haven't really lost any of their core of runners over the 4-5 years. I thought Wooton was going to be better this fall. BCC at times, over the years, looked like they had a chance. Whitman shows flashes but doesn't keep building. Blair looked good last spring but WJ, just rolls on. |
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| only pretty sure | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
02:48:34 PM |
| | Fairly certain they've lost all their core runners from four years ago. |
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| Wednesday, October 18, 2017
02:53:09 PM |
| | But whose the best of the 4A North teams |
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| Boi | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
03:06:19 PM |
| | Tru last time I checked Northwood was a non powerhouse school |
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| Power house school | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
03:06:25 PM |
| | Dulaney will win 4a north regionals with northwood in second. |
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| mocoxc | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
05:38:15 PM |
| | To whoever said that they don’t know where the idea of a 10 point race comes, literally check athletic.net, it’s there. Also don’t know where you’re getting your numbers from |
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| 4A north | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
05:47:23 PM |
| | Howard will come in 2ndit’s gonna be between paint branch and Sherwood and maybe northwood(I think u guys at overplaying them) |
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| Power house school | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
06:06:20 PM |
| | Northwood beat paint branch by 10 points and Sherwood isn’t competition for either |
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| Wednesday, October 18, 2017
06:11:47 PM |
| | Northwood doesn’t have good depth. |
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| Wednesday, October 18, 2017
06:23:08 PM |
| | Powerhouse go look on athletic net virtual meet northwood has 236 pits eldad mulugeta is included with a time trial. So you take mulugetas 63rd place and change it with 94 northwood supposed 6th runner. That gives them 267 exact same with paint branch and only 13 points better than Sherwood. In 4A north virtual meet same logic gives northwood 118 paint branch 120 sherwood 121 I get it northwood ran a tough course at consortia but anything can happen with 13 points |
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| Deena | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
06:41:29 PM |
| | Haven't payed close attention this year but if 4a north is still @ dulaney then it is an extremely flat fast course. Fastest 5k in md and probably 2nd easiest course behind only Frank Keyser |
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| Yo | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
07:16:10 PM |
| | 4A north course moved to new site in Baltimore county. It has some rolling hills. It’s certainly tougher than the old course but still a prettty fast course |
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| 12345 | Wednesday, October 18, 2017
08:27:07 PM |
| | Power house stop sucking Northwood they all hype. |
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| 324978efnoqef | Thursday, October 19, 2017
07:51:35 AM |
| | OK, Athlete has it at 10 once you take out the extra Nick Olano, thanks for that. But we are on a site that has spent years perfecting a rating system designed to predict the County race. They have the county race:
1. Richard Montgomery 127
2. Whitman 172
3. B-CC 176
4. Northwood 179
5. Northwest 188
Do I believe Olano will be 3 sec behind Chase Osborne? No but I do think their process is valid.
To whoever said that they don’t know where the idea of a 10 point race comes, literally check athletic.net, it’s there. Also don’t know where you’re getting your numbers from. |
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| Thursday, October 19, 2017
08:38:19 AM |
| | Where on athletic.net does it say northwood is finishing 4th. Nowhere |
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| Thursday, October 19, 2017
09:28:21 AM |
| | Where on athletic.net does it say northwood is finishing 4th. Nowhere |
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| 23498jiafsd | Thursday, October 19, 2017
12:14:24 PM |
| | Correct, Athlete doesn't say Northwood is 4th, MoCorunning's prediction from their rankings suggest Northwood will be 4th because the rankings take into account the difficulty of Northwood's home course and the fact the DCXC and the Scorpion Crawl are lightening fast. |
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| wow | Monday, November 20, 2017
08:46:52 PM |
| | Well this race turned out unexpectedly |
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